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Friday, October 25, 2013 1:47 AM


Tips on Navigating Obamacare Costs on HealthCare.Gov - My Personal Experience - Obamashock!


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You can now see cost options of various Obamacare plans whether or not you are registered.

Once on the site (click on the above link), filter your state and county.



Click on the lines as shown by the arrow, not the "i" symbol.

Don't bother with the instruction line at the top of the form that reads "For instructions on how to read and use this data, please view the documentation available under the ‘About’ tab on"

If you find and click on the "about tab",  it humorously looks like this:



After you click on the "about tab", one of the first things you will see is the message "For instructions on how to read and use this data, please view the documentation available under the ‘About’ tab on this page."

Zero Stars

One person actually gave this page three stars. I wanted to give it zero stars, but that was not an option. I tried one star, but I was not registered, so my vote did not count. Out of 399,014 visits, only one person voted on the quality of the page.

There are some links on the page, but none of them were at all helpful on how to use the page.

After doing some external searches as to what some of the fields mean, I attempted to download data and it actually worked. Rather than use the site tools, I did additional filtering, sorting, and column removal in Excel.

McHenry County, Illinois Plans

I live in McHenry County, Illinois.  There were 4216 plans for Illinois. There were 60 plans for McHenry County.

I stripped off the columns for State, Issuer Name, Rating Area, and Display. Here are the results for McHenry County.

CountyLevelPlan Marketing NameTypeAge 27Age 50Family
MC HENRYPlatinumHumana National Preferred Platinum 1000/1500 PlanPPO$383.48$653.52$1295.34
MC HENRYGoldAetna Premier 2000 PDPPO$358.00$611.00$1210.00
MC HENRYGoldLand of Lincoln National Premier PPO PlanPPO$353.63$602.65$1194.52
MC HENRYGoldLand of Lincoln National Elite PPO PlanPPO$342.38$583.48$1156.52
MC HENRYGoldHumana National Preferred Gold 2500/3500 PlanPPO$340.26$579.88$1149.38
MC HENRYGoldBlue Cross Blue Shield Premier 1, a Multi-State PlanPPO$339.54$578.65$1146.92
MC HENRYGoldLand of Lincoln National Complete PPO PlanPPO$337.28$574.80$1139.30
MC HENRYGoldBlue Cross Blue Shield Premier 2, a Multi-State PlanPPO$336.22$572.99$1135.72
MC HENRYGoldLand of Lincoln National Confidence PPO PlanPPO$333.97$569.14$1128.10
MC HENRYSilverLand of Lincoln National Premier PPO PlanPPO$328.32$559.52$1109.04
MC HENRYGoldLand of Lincoln National Preferred PPO PlanPPO$325.33$554.43$1098.94
MC HENRYGoldBlue PPO Gold 002PPO$323.65$551.56$1093.22
MC HENRYSilverAetna Classic 3500 PDPPO$321.00$547.00$1086.00
MC HENRYSilverLand of Lincoln National Elite PPO PlanPPO$318.24$542.34$1074.98
MC HENRYGoldBlue PPO Gold 001PPO$313.14$533.65$1057.74
MC HENRYSilverLand of Lincoln National Complete PPO PlanPPO$308.33$525.46$1041.52
MC HENRYSilverAetna Classic 5000PPO$308.00$524.00$1038.00
MC HENRYSilverHumana National Preferred Silver 4250/6250 PlanPPO$296.60$505.46$1001.88
MC HENRYSilverLand of Lincoln National Preferred PPO PlanPPO$296.00$504.44$999.84
MC HENRYGoldLand of Lincoln National Choice PPO PlanPPO$294.42$501.75$994.54
MC HENRYGoldLand of Lincoln National Freedom PPO PlanPPO$293.00$499.32$989.70
MC HENRYSilverLand of Lincoln National Confidence PPO PlanPPO$290.67$495.36$981.84
MC HENRYSilverHumana National Preferred Silver 3650/3650 PlanPPO$288.86$492.28$975.74
MC HENRYPlatinumHumana Connect Platinum 1000/1500 PlanHMO$285.44$486.45$964.20
MC HENRYBronzeHumana National Preferred Bronze 4850/6350 PlanPPO$283.84$483.72$958.78
MC HENRYSilverLand of Lincoln National Choice PPO PlanPPO$272.74$464.80$921.28
MC HENRYSilverLand of Lincoln National Freedom PPO PlanPPO$272.65$464.65$920.96
MC HENRYSilverBlue PPO Silver 004PPO$268.44$457.48$906.76
MC HENRYSilverBlue Cross Blue Shield Solution 3, a Multi-State PlanPPO$258.75$440.96$874.02
MC HENRYSilverBlue PPO Silver 003PPO$256.15$436.53$865.26
MC HENRYBronzeAetna Advantage 5750 PDPPO$254.00$433.00$858.00
MC HENRYGoldHumana Connect Gold 2500/3500 PlanHMO$253.17$431.46$855.20
MC HENRYBronzeHumana National Preferred Bronze 6300/6300 PlanPPO$251.10$427.92$848.18
MC HENRYSilverBlue Cross Blue Shield Solution 4, a Multi-State PlanPPO$248.88$424.14$840.68
MC HENRYBronzeAetna AdvantagePlus 5500 PDPPO$248.00$422.00$836.00
MC HENRYBronzeAetna Advantage 6350PPO$246.00$420.00$832.00
MC HENRYGoldBlue Choice Gold PPO 002PPO$233.29$397.58$788.04
MC HENRYBronzeLand of Lincoln National Complete PPO PlanPPO$230.89$393.48$779.92
MC HENRYBronzeLand of Lincoln National Preferred PPO PlanPPO$228.24$388.96$770.98
MC HENRYGoldBlue Choice Gold PPO 001PPO$223.89$381.55$756.26
MC HENRYSilverHumana Connect Silver 4600/6300 PlanHMO$219.87$374.71$742.70
MC HENRYBronzeLand of Lincoln National Premier PPO PlanPPO$215.86$367.86$729.12
MC HENRYBronzeHumana Connect Bronze 4850/6350 PlanHMO$208.99$356.16$705.96
MC HENRYGoldBlue Precision Gold HMO 001HMO$208.17$354.76$703.16
MC HENRYBronzeBlue Cross Blue Shield Basic 5, a Multi-State PlanPPO$207.16$353.04$699.76
MC HENRYBronzeBlue PPO Bronze 005PPO$199.18$339.45$672.82
MC HENRYBronzeBlue PPO Bronze 006PPO$197.18$336.04$666.06
MC HENRYCatastrophicHumana National Preferred Basic 6350/6350 PlanPPO$196.88$335.52$665.02
MC HENRYBronzeHumana Connect Bronze 6300/6300 PlanHMO$193.88$330.41$654.90
MC HENRYCatastrophicBlue Security PPO 010PPO$192.87$328.69$651.48
MC HENRYBronzeLand of Lincoln National Choice PPO PlanPPO$192.81$328.59$651.30
MC HENRYBronzeLand of Lincoln National Freedom PPO PlanPPO$191.23$325.89$645.94
MC HENRYSilverBlue Choice Silver PPO 004PPO$187.50$319.54$633.36
MC HENRYCatastrophicAetna BasicPPO$185.00$316.00$626.00
MC HENRYSilverBlue Precision Silver HMO 002HMO$179.22$305.42$605.36
MC HENRYSilverBlue Choice Silver PPO 003PPO$177.84$303.08$600.72
MC HENRYCatastrophicHumana Connect Basic 6350/6350 PlanHMO$148.24$252.62$500.72
MC HENRYBronzeBlue Precision Bronze HMO 003HMO$138.53$236.08$467.94
MC HENRYBronzeBlue Choice Bronze PPO 005PPO$128.87$219.62$435.30
MC HENRYBronzeBlue Choice Bronze PPO 006PPO$128.78$219.47$435.00


No Plan Descriptions

Each of those plan names should be a link to a description of the plan so you can see what the hell you are getting for your money. Alas, there is no link. Nor is there a link to the issuer so you can call them.

This is why you need to contact a certified In-Person Assister (IPA) to help you figure this all out.

Alternatively you can call a Certified Application Counselor (CAC), a community health center, an insurance agent or an insurance broker.

The rules say "States with partnership marketplaces must have a separate IPA program. States with state-based marketplaces can choose to have a separate IPA program. States with federally facilitated marketplaces are not permitted to have an IPA program"

Confused?
Just call your IPA except in the 34 states where you can't. Then call someone else.

Navigation Roulette

David Steinberg at PJ Media has additional comments and anecdotes about the navigation process in his post Identity Theft Russian Roulette: Healthcare.gov Refers Users to Uncertified Navigators and Assisters

I did as Steinberg did. I tried "Find Local Help" for my zipcode and found "461 results".

Results display 10 at a time. Most of the contacts require a phone call to schedule an appointment.

It seems you need a navigator to help you find a navigator. No problem.

If you "didn't find what you were looking for" then the "Contact Us" button will take you to a page where you can "Find Local Help". Alternatively, you can start a live chat.

I did not bother with any of that since I have a good plan that fortunately was not cancelled. Thus, I cannot tell you how much additional money Obamacare would have cost me personally. Others can, and the results are best described as ...

Obamashock!

Prepare to be shocked.

Reader Tim Wallace did figure out how much extra Obamacare would cost him.

Tim writes ...

  • My plan that I had for years no longer exists. 
  • So much for Obama's claim you can keep your existing plan. 
  • The truly affordable plan I used to have cost me $753.60 per month with a $5,450 family deductible.
  • The most "affordable" plan with similar benefits will cost $1,360.09 per month, except the family deductible is now $11,000. 
  • So much for Obama's claim "your costs will be lower" 
  • I am trying to clarify if I can even have a plan outside the company plan.  
  • Unfortunately the company plan is soaring to $2,100 a month because the plan is located in NJ and I live in NC. 
  • If I can have a plan in NC, it appears I will no longer be able to pay for it in pretax dollars like I used to. That is a hit of another 30% or so. 

Unfortunately, I am reading other similar horror stories. If you have a plan you like, I hope you get to keep it.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com

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